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Old 09-04-2017, 10:02 PM  
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Default We Need a Privacy Screen For the Spa

I have finally finished rebuilding the Pergola over the spa.
The spa is now back in service, and has been for a few weeks.
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I call it a spa instead of a hot tub because we use it for cooling down on hot days, not for warming up on cold days like we always did in the northern tier.
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We have a very private back yard, except for one small area open to viewing from 1 window in the neighbor's home.
We skinny dip in the spa, ... always have, always will.
We have hung a shower curtain to block the view of the spa.
It does the job.
I do not care what they know.
All I care about is what they see.
It appears to be OK with them, been doing it for 4 years now.
We're still on friendly, if not distant terms.

The distance between the posts is 125".
The shower curtain is 65" wide.
We could hang a second curtain from the other side.
But, the curtain[s] do not work well with breezes and winds.
Not going to sew weights into the bottoms.

We have double retractable screen doors on the 3 exterior french doors of the house.
Something similar but with a fabric screen really appeals to me.
But, I have looked into replacing the retractable french door screens, screens and/or complete units.
The complete units are not cheap!
But, I am.

I've looked online for DIY privacy screen ideas.
I've found some of interest, but nothing that really makes me say: YEAH!
I'm thinking of a one sided, 4 to 6' high fabric screen, hung from a rope, wire or rod, and attached to a wood or metal end piece that pulls across the opening and fastens to the opposite post top and bottom to stabilize the screen during breezes.

I have problems with how to get it to be a roll up retractable.
I only see how to make it a sliding retractable that simply gathers up on one end.
That may be what I will have to do if I can't figure the other out.

Any thoughts, or suggestions?


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Old 09-04-2017, 10:28 PM  
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Have you thought about those roll up ones they sell at the box stores? they are fairly heavy so they stand still in breezes but not wind. We put them up at my grandfathers house years ago and work pretty well.


 
 
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Old 09-05-2017, 05:02 AM  
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We have tried the heavy high quality shower curtains and they work pretty good. We have used the roll up plastic ones and they last a year or two and the sun wind and cold break them down around here. The heavy curtains hold up well but get blown around.

Two places I built a solid wood screen that lets air pass thru by staggering the upright boards on each side of the frame and slightly overlapping them. I used 5/4 decking wood but the thinner fence boards would work fine. That’s the way I would make yours I think. I have also seen them done like a basket weave with the boards going horizontal.

If you want to put us up for a week or two or fifteen, we will come over and help you design and build it. I’m retiring at the end of the month and have all the time in the world. HaHa.
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I put small casters on a folding room divider for a customer.It's a little bulky when collapsed but there was only a single anchor point, unlike yours.
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Old 09-05-2017, 02:46 PM  
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@ Chris
I've seen and considered those. If you mean those that retract by rolling up at the top whether by a crank or an electric motor:
too complicated and/or expensive.
If you mean the ones that attach at the top and roll up from the bottom. They come in very usable lengths, 96" & 120". The 96" width looks to be the best option as it would have about a 1'+ opening on both ends or a 2' opening on one end for access when lowered.
It would need to be easily raised and lowered by M'Lady when I wasn't around.
The biggest problems are the materials. We live in an area that is rated at 150"/yr of precipitation. Although, we are actually in a drought period right now. We also get a lot of intense sun, between the rains, and humidity goes up to 96 to 100% every night. Even though we don't have the cold, snow and winter weather, the wood, bamboo, cotton, canvas, or plastic types would still be very prone to weathering from the sun, rain and humidity and alge growth. Note the black alge growing on the concrete.
But then, the bamboo screens are cheap enough that they could be considered to be expendable and simply replaced every 2 or 3 years.
I'm still wishy-washing around on this one.

@ bud16415 & Snoonyb
I am trying to get away from using shower curtains due to their inherent problems.

From the pics you can see that there is very little extra space on the slab. Solid, folding, roll around or other similar installs just take up too much room without adding more slab area. Which could be done, but I'm not going to.

Ha, Ha, bud. Take a number.
Friends and relatives, that never visited, or even asked to visit in the almost 35 years I lived in Alaska, are now lined up to come visit us here. I've been thinking about building a small ohana in the back of out lot and renting it out to them as a vacation rental. It would definitely slow down the inquiries and provide income as my SocSec looses value through time.
M'Lady refused to consider a B&B in any way.

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I've seen and considered those. If you mean those that retract by rolling up at the top whether by a crank or an electric motor:
too complicated and/or expensive.
If you mean the ones that attach at the top and roll up from the bottom. They come in very usable lengths, 96" & 120". The 96" width looks to be the best option as it would have about a 1'+ opening on both ends or a 2' opening on one end for access when lowered.
It would need to be easily raised and lowered by M'Lady when I wasn't around.
The biggest problems are the materials. We live in an area that is rated at 150"/yr of precipitation. Although, we are actually in a drought period right now. We also get a lot of intense sun, between the rains, and humidity goes up to 96 to 100% every night. Even though we don't have the cold, snow and winter weather, the wood, bamboo, cotton, canvas, or plastic types would still be very prone to weathering from the sun, rain and humidity and alge growth. Note the black alge growing on the concrete.
But then, the bamboo screens are cheap enough that they could be considered to be expendable and simply replaced every 2 or 3 years.
I'm still wishy-washing around on this one.

@ bud16415 & Snoonyb
I am trying to get away from using shower curtains due to their inherent problems.

From the pics you can see that there is very little extra space on the slab. Solid, folding, roll around or other similar installs just take up too much room without adding more slab area. Which could be done, but I'm not going to.

Ha, Ha, bud. Take a number.
Friends and relatives, that never visited, or even asked to visit in the almost 35 years I lived in Alaska, are now lined up to come visit us here. I've been thinking about building a small ohana in the back of out lot and renting it out to them as a vacation rental. It would definitely slow down the inquiries and provide income as my SocSec looses value through time.
M'Lady refused to consider a B&B in any way.
Those are the ones I was talking about, cheap and hand roll from the bottom.
 
 
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Had to go into town today.
Stopped by HD and looked at their shades.

I'm kinda liking this one in 120" length X 96" height.
It does go the full width of the opening, but it has tie down bungees that need to be fairly close to the upright.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Coolaroo-...0082/203304084

Looking through the questions, the mfgr. says that it takes up to 6 turns of the crank to move the shade 1 foot up or down.
By everything right and proper, that would at full extent with the number of cranks getting less as the roll dia. gets larger.

I would need to add a cross member at the height it was to be mounted.
That's why an 8' height would be better than a 6' height. I will need to make some measurements tomorrow after daylight to confirm.
Then, I'll need to run it by M' Lady after she gets back from her France trip in 2 to 3 weeks.
That Walnut coloring is the only one in the size needed to do the job.
In the end, she had to OK it.
I'm not dumb enough to cross her on this type of thing.

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Those are nice enough and do most as advertised. Couple things with them. They can be a bear to roll up in a wind as you have to release the hold downs. They only stay in place with the friction of the crank mechanism so in a big wind it will unwind some more and un-tether the hold downs or just roll out when it is up. So you would want find a way to lock the crank so it won't move.
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