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Old 06-05-2017, 09:20 PM  
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Either way if you come back to the same level, the measurement stays the same
If you have xft now and dig it all out and fill it with gravel, you still have xft.

I am sure we will come to an understanding soon.
Will you be at or near the same level as it is now when you are done?
Yes, the overall grading of the area will not change. So, do I just dig out the high side, pit it to the low side, keep the grading for drainage. OR, do I dig the fill out, put gravel in there, keep the grading for drainage?


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Yes, the overall grading of the area will not change. So, do I just dig out the high side, pit it to the low side, keep the grading for drainage. OR, do I dig the fill out, put gravel in there, keep the grading for drainage?
Yeah I thought of that too. You want gravel for a base for the block but the water can then go down into the gravel instead of running off with the landscaped slope.

If you have a place where you could drain the trench you could add a perforated pipe and waterproof the bottom of the trench..

You could water proof between the gravel and sand layer so water runs off from there.

Or just do a concrete sidewalk.


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Yeah I thought of that too. You want gravel for a base for the block but the water can then go down into the gravel instead of running off with the landscaped slope.

If you have a place where you could drain the trench you could add a perforated pipe and waterproof the bottom of the trench..

You could water proof between the gravel and sand layer so water runs off from there.

Or just do a concrete sidewalk.
Next year, I plan to repave or use pavers for my whole driveway next year. This is a more of a stop gape for winter.
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Next year, I plan to repave or use pavers for my whole driveway next year. This is a more of a stop gape for winter.
will the driveway have a slope down to the road.. Do you have a yard drain to a city storm drain.

Your yard is fairly level isn't it?
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will the driveway have a slope down to the road.. Do you have a yard drain to a city storm drain.

Your yard is fairly level isn't it?
The yard i fairly level. The front of the garage is about the middle of the yard and the high point. The driveway slopes to the curb, and the walkway will slope the opposite way.

No yard drain.
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The yard i fairly level. The front of the garage is about the middle of the yard and the high point. The driveway slopes to the curb, and the walkway will slope the opposite way.

No yard drain.
My fear is of a trench filled with gravel sloped toward the house will transport water back to the house. We don't want solve one problem and create a flooded basement.

How about, digging the trench on a slope down to the point center between the house and garage and water proof that with a couple layers of heavy poly (PLASTIC) to move the water to the that center spot before inters the dirt.
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My fear is of a trench filled with gravel sloped toward the house will transport water back to the house. We don't want solve one problem and create a flooded basement.

How about, digging the trench on a slope down to the point center between the house and garage and water proof that with a couple layers of heavy poly (PLASTIC) to move the water to the that center spot before inters the dirt.
So, dig the berm on a V, sloping towards the garage? I could do that.

For the plastic, does it need to be heavy duty?

I agree, the last thing I need is a flooded basement.
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So, dig the berm on a V, sloping towards the garage? I could do that.

For the plastic, does it need to be heavy duty?

I agree, the last thing I need is a flooded basement.
Yeah if it is going to hold water and stretch into shape and not cut with the gravel.
Perhaps a layer of sand just below and just above it to protect it.
6 mil is what they put under concrete in the basement.
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Funny, that is not the picture I had in my head. So do you have gutters and down spouts on the house and will you be adding them to the garage?

Before you built the garage and you had a rain, the water was spread out over the area, now half of that water is landing between the house and the garage.


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