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Old 05-13-2017, 04:40 AM  
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the VB that you show can not be used where water is under pressure all the time
like under the toilet attached to the supply line.
they are used at the nipple on the shower head, where they are not exposed to pressure all the time

https://www.amazon.com/Aquaus-360-Bi...quas+360+bidet
Ah. Ok. Well, I already have the sprayer but I don't think it has a built-in vacuum break. If I have to buy the vacuum break separately, which on would you recommend and where would I put it?

I intend to keep the water to the bidet off when not in use via the 3-way T-adapter.


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Ah. Ok. Well, I already have the sprayer but I don't think it has a built-in vacuum break. If I have to buy the vacuum break separately, which on would you recommend and where would I put it?

I intend to keep the water to the bidet off when not in use via the 3-way T-adapter.
need to know the hose size of the sprayer
i would put it after the shut off valve before the hose

so you need to know the size of those 2 threads


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need to know the hose size of the sprayer
i would put it after the shut off valve before the hose

so you need to know the size of those 2 threads
It will be 1/2" for the shut off and hose.
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And I'm being picky so I'd like it chrome finish, but if I can't get it in chrome finish that will be ok.

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sense you know you are going to install one, and your walls will be open
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-382020...vacuum+breaker
i would use this type, with the piping inside the wall



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Thanks. I actually was not planning to move the water supply for the toilet and I was not planning to cut in to the wall behind and next to the toilet. I planned to cut the wall where the showerhead will be and the wall inside/behind and above the vanity.


Does this help?

I've already cut the hole in the floor and the sheet vinyl for the water supply from the floor.

If I'm going to keep the water to the sprayer turned off except when I go to use it, could I get away with using the Hansgrohe 06510000 External Vacuum Breaker?
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sense you know you are going to install one, and your walls will be open
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-382020...vacuum+breaker
i would use this type, with the piping inside the wall



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My brain didn't process the picture properly the first time I looked at it. Could I still use the atmospheric vacuum breaker on the braided steel or flexible hose inside the room instead of inside the wall?
Could I use this: http://www.homedepot.com/p/T-S-Brass...0969/100088418
OR https://hdsupplysolutions.com/shop/p...dy-1-2-p620843 ?
Since it is 1/2" and screw it on to the tee adapter outlet and then run the hose from it to the sprayer?

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My brain didn't process the picture properly the first time I looked at it. Could I still use the atmospheric vacuum breaker on the braided steel or flexible hose inside the room instead of inside the wall?
Could I use this: http://www.homedepot.com/p/T-S-Brass...0969/100088418
OR https://hdsupplysolutions.com/shop/p...dy-1-2-p620843 ?
Since it is 1/2" and screw it on to the tee adapter outlet and then run the hose from it to the sprayer?
https://www.screencast.com/t/wuqsCtVwYR87

it need to be 6'' above the bowl/flood level
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it need to be 6'' above the bowl/flood level
Ohhh! Ok! That makes sense.

And it needs to be oriented with the lid thingy at the top?
Arrows indicate direction of flow to the sprayer?

I could find a way to mount the vacuum breaker to some sort of bracket or holder a few inches away from the wall (making sure it is stable) and then run flexible hose to it from the shutoff and more flexible house from its outlet to the sprayer. I'll have to find short enough hose.

But, basically, something like this?


Would you recommend any particular brand? I've seen Apollo and T&S.
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exactly correct. T&S, love that soft ware jelly I am

for mounting. if, you pipe it in the wall, it will be mounted
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exactly correct. T&S, love that soft ware jelly I am

for mounting. if, you pipe it in the wall, it will be mounted
What software? What I'm using to draw the stuff? It's MS Paint. I used shapes and lines and then color fill tool. I just used pencil and dragged the mouse for the hoses. I did take art class in high school so I learned a little about perspecive and shading, but I suck at it. Tub spout and levers ended up looking like a duck face though. LOL.

Hmm.. You know, I think 6-inches above the flood level is within that area where I painted and it didn't turn out so great. I've been thinking of covering it with beadboard. I could cut a chunk out of the paneling on the bottom part of that wall to access inside, and cover it with beadboard.

I want to make sure I get this right.. I would use the flexible steel braided hose from the 3-way, run it to the wall to the chrome nipple and escutcheon, then have solid pipe of some sort in the wall, and secure it somehow. Wall behind is the same 1/8" thick paneling (Did I mention the builders were so cheap they just put 1/8" thick paneling over the studs in the entire house?) so I'd probably have to put it against a stud if there is one close enough.

I know I'm asking for a lot of handholding, but do you have any links to the chrome nipples and elbows? And what would the loop be made from?

Also, because I got bored, I filled in more details (but didn't draw stuff being inside the wall).


I wonder if there would be a way for me to adapt the sign of the crab escutcheons to be put on the wall there-- but I think the top openings are too small. Would be cool if I could pull it off though. I'll have to post closeup pics of them showing measurements to see if there is a way to figure it out. I heard back from the mfr on the sign of the crab stuff and they sent me what I would need to make those escutcheons and levers work. I found the cartridges online but couldn't find the other stuff.

Cartridges I found for around $28 on doplumb.com but I can't find out the shipping info bc the page has errors and I don't want to order until I know I can find all of the parts and hopefully for cheaper. I also wonder if some of the stuff can be replaced with cheaper generic things. Also wondered if I could just use different levers that have more readily available parts for a lower price.

Meanwhile, I also sketched more on the layout for the plumbing. Still not finalized. I was too lazy to sketch the plumbing for the lavs in B2 and B3 but it's pretty much the same as the other lav.


What do you think?

And thank you so very much for helping me with this.

In a bit of good news, the less expensive tub/shower surround I wanted for B1 came back in stock. If it's still in stock next month, I might see if I can go buy it when my brother pays me his monthly installment for the loan for his truck. But I don't want to put the horse before the carriage and I need to fix up my bathroom to be usable first. So, getting the floor fixed and toilet installed take priority. I can do other finishing touches like the vanity light and tub surround later. Current one sucks, but is still ok. I really need to focus on one task at a time.



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