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Unfortunately, once precedence is set, it is a bit harder than this.
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why? it is your property.
if you talk to him, he has been notified that his property is on yours.
he can not claim "i dunno" and his car, all you have to do is post a tow at owners expience sign
when i bought my land in texas, the cattle owner had his fence on my land 2'
the VA man would not sign off on the loan, 2 bobcats pushed his fence back, restaked it.
he had precedence. but i had a deed
if you talk to him, he has been notified that his property is on yours.
he can not claim "i dunno" and his car, all you have to do is post a tow at owners expience sign
when i bought my land in texas, the cattle owner had his fence on my land 2'
the VA man would not sign off on the loan, 2 bobcats pushed his fence back, restaked it.
he had precedence. but i had a deed
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States have laws regarding adverse possession. Most won't allow you to mow down or move a fence just because your deed says it's on your property. I've gone through it. I won, but it went to court. That's why I always say to get a proper survey before you close on a property.
The house I'm in now had the same issue. I measured it out before I closed and found a side fence was 3 feet into my future property. The seller paid for a survey and to move the fence. I was happy and my neighbor was ok with it because she knew I had 2 large mango trees and a happy neighbor shares his delicious mangoes.
The house I'm in now had the same issue. I measured it out before I closed and found a side fence was 3 feet into my future property. The seller paid for a survey and to move the fence. I was happy and my neighbor was ok with it because she knew I had 2 large mango trees and a happy neighbor shares his delicious mangoes.
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This is correct. All I would recommend is to tread lightly and remember, they are your neighbors, so treat them well.
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That fight has been fought.
Jungle come here to bounce ideas off people here and mostly he wants people to agree with him. He can ruffle feathers and often goes ahead and does things his own way and when things don't go well it will be Neals fault or Oldogs fault or in this case he didn't get caught slipping the rules. It's just the man picking on him.
Jungle come here to bounce ideas off people here and mostly he wants people to agree with him. He can ruffle feathers and often goes ahead and does things his own way and when things don't go well it will be Neals fault or Oldogs fault or in this case he didn't get caught slipping the rules. It's just the man picking on him.
oldognewtrick
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I really think it's inspectorDs fault on this one.....
oldognewtrick
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Are you kidding, inspectorD enjoys getting lashes with wet noodles, that's no punishment for him.
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Lets leave the wet noodle Outta this...
Sounds like you need a Keg of beer, and need to invite all offended parties over to work through this conundrum. You may have to take some things apart, and have an engineer stamp some solutions. Other than that, your at the mercy of the inspector. Just make friends, cause they get paid either way.
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Sounds like you need a Keg of beer, and need to invite all offended parties over to work through this conundrum. You may have to take some things apart, and have an engineer stamp some solutions. Other than that, your at the mercy of the inspector. Just make friends, cause they get paid either way.
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When I first read this, I wondered what the neighbor had done to piss Jungle off. I have a LOT of grievances with my neighbor but I try to ignore him for the most part.
I do have to agree that with hindsight, talking to the neighbor probably would have been better (although, its entirely possible that Jungle tried to talk to the neighbor and could not come to an agreement).
Speaking of property disputes, a late friend of mine had a neighbor who complained about the fence. He said my friend's fence was over on his property and insisted that he move it over a few feet. My friend went and got a survey and found out that not only was the guy wrong, but that the fence should have been moved 2' over the opposite direction because part of the neighbor's driveway was on my friend's property. He was too nice of a guy to insist that the fence be moved though-- he just informed the neighbor and the guy shut up about it. At least it wasn't as bad as the time another friend had a survey done to prove where his property line was and the people who were disputing demanded a copy of the survey. He told them to kiss his a** and pay for one themselves.
And I still remember when another dear late friend had a minor dispute with the city. He lived in the same house for 60 years and had his fence up for at least 50. The city put in a new fire hydrant and somehow managed to make it so one of the outlets was facing the fence. They built it so close that they couldn't get a hose on it. They sent him a letter informing him that he had built his fence too close to their fire hydrant and they were ordering him to move it. He called them up and informed them that his fence was there before the hydrant and they needed to move their hydrant. He never heard from them again about the issue.
My yard is in the middle of a forest surrounded by land owned by a timber company. We had a survey done and discovered that the fence was done wrong so we put up fencing to encompass all of our land-- some of it had been outside of our fenceline. Some people from the timber company cut the fence and started marking trees in our yard. We repaired the fence and covered the marks. One day some of the lumberjacks confronted my father. He led them over to show them the old property line markers and then had to show them how to properly read a compass to navigate in the woods (it was something he learned in the army). After that they never complained. They also didn't complain that my father built the fence about a foot into the timber company's land on the north side (it did not take any trees away from them) because it gave a little distance between the woods and our barn. Previously, every time they would do a "controlled burn" they would set our barn on fire because they didn't do the firebreaks properly. We had replaced most of the side with metal, but we would still have to go out and spray the side down with water just to keep the whole thing from burning.
Man, I'm babbling. LOL.
Back to the issue on renovating and stuff-- if you are just fixing or correcting existing mistakes or code violations, do you still need a permit?
I do have to agree that with hindsight, talking to the neighbor probably would have been better (although, its entirely possible that Jungle tried to talk to the neighbor and could not come to an agreement).
Speaking of property disputes, a late friend of mine had a neighbor who complained about the fence. He said my friend's fence was over on his property and insisted that he move it over a few feet. My friend went and got a survey and found out that not only was the guy wrong, but that the fence should have been moved 2' over the opposite direction because part of the neighbor's driveway was on my friend's property. He was too nice of a guy to insist that the fence be moved though-- he just informed the neighbor and the guy shut up about it. At least it wasn't as bad as the time another friend had a survey done to prove where his property line was and the people who were disputing demanded a copy of the survey. He told them to kiss his a** and pay for one themselves.
And I still remember when another dear late friend had a minor dispute with the city. He lived in the same house for 60 years and had his fence up for at least 50. The city put in a new fire hydrant and somehow managed to make it so one of the outlets was facing the fence. They built it so close that they couldn't get a hose on it. They sent him a letter informing him that he had built his fence too close to their fire hydrant and they were ordering him to move it. He called them up and informed them that his fence was there before the hydrant and they needed to move their hydrant. He never heard from them again about the issue.
My yard is in the middle of a forest surrounded by land owned by a timber company. We had a survey done and discovered that the fence was done wrong so we put up fencing to encompass all of our land-- some of it had been outside of our fenceline. Some people from the timber company cut the fence and started marking trees in our yard. We repaired the fence and covered the marks. One day some of the lumberjacks confronted my father. He led them over to show them the old property line markers and then had to show them how to properly read a compass to navigate in the woods (it was something he learned in the army). After that they never complained. They also didn't complain that my father built the fence about a foot into the timber company's land on the north side (it did not take any trees away from them) because it gave a little distance between the woods and our barn. Previously, every time they would do a "controlled burn" they would set our barn on fire because they didn't do the firebreaks properly. We had replaced most of the side with metal, but we would still have to go out and spray the side down with water just to keep the whole thing from burning.
Man, I'm babbling. LOL.
Back to the issue on renovating and stuff-- if you are just fixing or correcting existing mistakes or code violations, do you still need a permit?
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slownsteady
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Before going thru the whole "neighbor thing" again, read Jungle's previous posts on the subject.....
http://www.houserepairtalk.com/showthread.php?t=16060
http://www.houserepairtalk.com/showthread.php?t=16060
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Default Neighbour trespasses every day
The way the property line is that she parts her car with the wheel about 1" from the property line. Obviously every time she gets out of the car she is on my side of the property. (there is no fence yet.)
The next thing is their shed is also on the property line and the overhang is about 6" over my property.
At first i thought it was a sort of honest mistake, but now i see these people are very cheap and sneaky. It is just plain rude. They park their cars in the drive way then use my drive way to get into their backyard! The problem is they will have to width their own drive way, is not my problem.
I should to talk to them, but it is not like they don't know what they are doing is wrong... I have a good mind to build a fence and send them the bill before cutting down the roof of their shed. The previous owner also complained about these people. Guess what they are jehovas, i guess love their neighbour has a different meaning for them. More like take from they neighbour.
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DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REALLY????? overhang? Walking? and,,,bigoted religious remarks ??????
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Default Neighbour trespasses every day
The way the property line is that she parts her car with the wheel about 1" from the property line. Obviously every time she gets out of the car she is on my side of the property. (there is no fence yet.)
The next thing is their shed is also on the property line and the overhang is about 6" over my property.
At first i thought it was a sort of honest mistake, but now i see these people are very cheap and sneaky. It is just plain rude. They park their cars in the drive way then use my drive way to get into their backyard! The problem is they will have to width their own drive way, is not my problem.
I should to talk to them, but it is not like they don't know what they are doing is wrong... I have a good mind to build a fence and send them the bill before cutting down the roof of their shed. The previous owner also complained about these people. Guess what they are jehovas, i guess love their neighbour has a different meaning for them. More like take from they neighbour.
END QUOTE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REALLY????? overhang? Walking? and,,,bigoted religious remarks ??????
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I invite my neighbors onto my property so they can maintain their stuff that is built on the property line. I couldn't care less if my neighbors walked across my drive everyday.
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Exactly..................
Luke 9:49-50King James Version (KJV)
49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
Luke 9:49-50King James Version (KJV)
49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
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Frodo, its a bit late for the fire thing-- a dead tree from the timber company's land (that had been dead for years and which we had asked them to cut down as we saw it as a danger to our property) fell on our barn and crushed it. State Farm assessed the damage at $18k and gave us half of that. They were supposed to contact the timber company for us and get money out of them. But the adjuster I got was a total moron and he didn't know how to get the name of the company. I found out the name and gave the info to the insurance company but they never did anything about it except cancel our insurance (they made all sorts of false claims as to the reasons-- one of the only "valid" reasons was "debris in the yard" but the "debris" was there from the tree falling). I couldn't find the contact info for the timber company myself and was told by the insurance company that they would handle it. Had someone come look at the barn and he said there was no way to repair it and that it would cost $50k to build a new one. Unfortunately the statute of limitation is up on suing the timber company.
Ah, now I see what Jungle's relationship with the neighbors was like. I've had some Jehova's Witnesses wake me up at 7am honking their horns at my gate before, but I've never been rude to them. I always try to be courteous if they come out at a decent hour. In retrospect, if Jungle had approached and said he wanted to discuss the Bible as an "in" he might have gotten them to warm up and then broached the subject of property lines and such.
Personally, if they weren't causing damage and weren't obstructing the driveway, I don't get quite what the problem is. It seems a pity. Especially when I've had neighbors that were MUCH worse than that.
I'd been living in a place for almost 5 years when some new guy moved in and decided he wanted to park where I'd been parking. He parked there once when I was at work. I came home and had to park elsewhere. Then when his car wasn't there, I parked in my usual spot. Jackass got mad and parked directly behind me to box me in. He laughed when I told him I was late for work and needed him to move his car. I then told him that I was about to call security to have his car towed and was going to report him to his superior. He had a bunch of visitors that day and they thought it was incredibly rude of him to park behind me like that and they let him know it. He suddenly changed his tune and tried to make BS excuses as to why he thought it was ok. I told him to just get his car out of the way and that I would have him written up and have his car towed if he ever pulled that crap again. and that was one of the milder jerk neighbors.
Ah, now I see what Jungle's relationship with the neighbors was like. I've had some Jehova's Witnesses wake me up at 7am honking their horns at my gate before, but I've never been rude to them. I always try to be courteous if they come out at a decent hour. In retrospect, if Jungle had approached and said he wanted to discuss the Bible as an "in" he might have gotten them to warm up and then broached the subject of property lines and such.
Personally, if they weren't causing damage and weren't obstructing the driveway, I don't get quite what the problem is. It seems a pity. Especially when I've had neighbors that were MUCH worse than that.
I'd been living in a place for almost 5 years when some new guy moved in and decided he wanted to park where I'd been parking. He parked there once when I was at work. I came home and had to park elsewhere. Then when his car wasn't there, I parked in my usual spot. Jackass got mad and parked directly behind me to box me in. He laughed when I told him I was late for work and needed him to move his car. I then told him that I was about to call security to have his car towed and was going to report him to his superior. He had a bunch of visitors that day and they thought it was incredibly rude of him to park behind me like that and they let him know it. He suddenly changed his tune and tried to make BS excuses as to why he thought it was ok. I told him to just get his car out of the way and that I would have him written up and have his car towed if he ever pulled that crap again. and that was one of the milder jerk neighbors.
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back in 1990, Jehova's Witnesses started coming around our neighborhood. would not take
I am Baptist, no thank you. As a hint.
so, I saw them coming down the street, put on some appropriate rock and roll, dumped out a jar of parsley on the table top
put the tv on a porn channel.
invited them in, commented on the guys tight looking butt.
they suddenly remembered an appointment across town
never saw them again.
I am Baptist, no thank you. As a hint.
so, I saw them coming down the street, put on some appropriate rock and roll, dumped out a jar of parsley on the table top
put the tv on a porn channel.
invited them in, commented on the guys tight looking butt.
they suddenly remembered an appointment across town
never saw them again.
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LOL! The sad thing is, they are taught that if they don't convert a certain amount of people in their lifetime, they won't get in to heaven.
A good friend of mine was a Jehova's Witness when I was a kid. Sweet girl, but she really got picked on a lot because of her religion-- mostly by a teacher. Back then we had to say the Pledge every day and her religion only allowed her to pledge allegiance to God and not a flag or country. So every day the hag homeroom teacher would announce it was time to say the pledge "Except for Abby because SHE'S antisocial!" Teacher pulled the same crap with any other thing the poor kid wasn't allowed to participate in. I had to do like an hour of Bible study with her just to be able to go over and visit and spend time with her. Even though I didn't agree with her beliefs, I put up with it because she was my friend and I wanted to hang out with her. I never heard from her after I moved overseas though. I know her parents forbade her from going to college because it would teach her things that contradicted their beliefs.
The door-to-door thing can be annoying sometimes, but I sometimes feel sorry for them. Love the way you handled it. LOL.
A friend of mine got some Jehova's Witnesses to leave just by wearing her Karate gi when she answered the door.
Also, hilarious emoticon there.
A good friend of mine was a Jehova's Witness when I was a kid. Sweet girl, but she really got picked on a lot because of her religion-- mostly by a teacher. Back then we had to say the Pledge every day and her religion only allowed her to pledge allegiance to God and not a flag or country. So every day the hag homeroom teacher would announce it was time to say the pledge "Except for Abby because SHE'S antisocial!" Teacher pulled the same crap with any other thing the poor kid wasn't allowed to participate in. I had to do like an hour of Bible study with her just to be able to go over and visit and spend time with her. Even though I didn't agree with her beliefs, I put up with it because she was my friend and I wanted to hang out with her. I never heard from her after I moved overseas though. I know her parents forbade her from going to college because it would teach her things that contradicted their beliefs.
The door-to-door thing can be annoying sometimes, but I sometimes feel sorry for them. Love the way you handled it. LOL.
A friend of mine got some Jehova's Witnesses to leave just by wearing her Karate gi when she answered the door.
Also, hilarious emoticon there.
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i worked around some of them. one day, during our 9am break. the subject of rape came up.
Jerry ray, said the girl deserved it because she did not fight enough. he was making his point with a empty coke bottle and a pencil.
moveing the coke bottle around, trying to stick the pencil in it. saying see, if you fight he cant do anything.
I reached over with a 24" pipe wrench, smashed the coke bottle in his hand, and stuck the pencil in the bottle
looked at him and said..I just knocked your daughter out. is is still her fault. got up and left.
he told the rest of them i was a heathen, that needed to be avoided. LOL fine by me!!!!!
Jerry ray, said the girl deserved it because she did not fight enough. he was making his point with a empty coke bottle and a pencil.
moveing the coke bottle around, trying to stick the pencil in it. saying see, if you fight he cant do anything.
I reached over with a 24" pipe wrench, smashed the coke bottle in his hand, and stuck the pencil in the bottle
looked at him and said..I just knocked your daughter out. is is still her fault. got up and left.
he told the rest of them i was a heathen, that needed to be avoided. LOL fine by me!!!!!
Lol , I gotta chime in here. I was raised a jehovah witness . Sure wasn't for me ! I haven't spoken to my parents in a good 10 years. There's alot of history as to why but is pretty much directly related to religion , if they wernt I'm pretty sure our realitionship would be different.
There are idiots and intelligent people of every religion I suppose . I do marvel at how some people who are very smart fall into cults . Living through it as a child , the closest thing I can compare it to is the Amish , although I believe it was harder in the respect that your forced to shun the world around you , but put right into the middle of it. At least Amish children are only around thier own kind.
One comment that was made , which is wrong , is about converting in order to goto heaven. The majority of them 99.9% don't belive they will goto heaven. I had a very hard time as a child , but they say what dosnt kill you will make you stronger. I'd probably made me who I am today , but for better or worse I can't say.:2cents:
There are idiots and intelligent people of every religion I suppose . I do marvel at how some people who are very smart fall into cults . Living through it as a child , the closest thing I can compare it to is the Amish , although I believe it was harder in the respect that your forced to shun the world around you , but put right into the middle of it. At least Amish children are only around thier own kind.
One comment that was made , which is wrong , is about converting in order to goto heaven. The majority of them 99.9% don't belive they will goto heaven. I had a very hard time as a child , but they say what dosnt kill you will make you stronger. I'd probably made me who I am today , but for better or worse I can't say.:2cents:
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