Mnpt copper on brass

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vdotmatrix

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These were leaking for so long. I stopped the lead but now have to remove the old copper from this brass diverter.
do you think they are sweated ?

pipe wrench a little heat? Images are upside down.
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The copper isn't sweated to the brass, just to the copper MIP, so you'll need to cut the pipe between the elbow and the MIP fitting.
 
The copper isn't sweated to the brass, just to the copper MIP, so you'll need to cut the pipe between the elbow and the MIP fitting.
I have already cut the pipe. I know they aren't suppose to be sweated but was wondering if people sometimes do stupid stuff. Who knows. The pictures are upside down. I put a wrench to it and they wont move. Pipe wrench? Any ideas?
 
I use 2 pair of channel locks, and sometimes a little heat.
 
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Channel locks broke these free....
I think channel locks were the only tools that would bite into the copper for secure purchase.AC022E33-926B-4E93-BDCB-D3BE54167F80.jpeg
 
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