Roof is leaking and not sure why or where

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The slope may look worse than it is because the upper floor extends at least 2 ft over the Porch.
Lee: can you take a picture of the slope looking at the end of that roof? while standing on the ground.
 
pokerduder said:
I just re-looked and I think what they did was shingle over the headwall flashing for aesthetics. So in other words, they laid down the shingles, put the flashing over it like they were supposed to, and then put a row of shingles over the metal.
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This is incorrect thing to do because you punch holes in the material that is suppose to keep you dry. It should be nailed in the wall and covered by the siding, not nailed through the roof shingles.
 
nealtw said:
The slope may look worse than it is because the upper floor extends at least 2 ft over the Porch.
Lee: can you take a picture of the slope looking at the end of that roof? while standing on the ground.
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I did one better. I measured 8 inches down on a 2 foot level.
 
nealtw said:
If you did that right that it would be 4/12 pitch.
Put a level on the underside of the ceiling in the porch, does it slope toward the house?
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Where the majority of the leaking is happening, yes. Slightly. But it does seem to be pitched towards the house.

As I move towards the front door, it seems to get better until it starts to slope away.
 
pokerduder said:
I did one better. I measured 8 inches down on a 2 foot level.
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If you did that right that it would be 4/12 pitch.
Put a level on the underside of the ceiling in the porch, does it slope toward the house?

Water can get to strange places but the nails that Oldog is looking at are below the wall and I would think water would more likely show up on the outboard end and would expect that water to show up at the outside beam unless the ceiling is sloped. I think it is more likely coming down the wall, from window or roof above.

When the roof was replaced did they do some ice sheild?
I still think removing drywall will tell the story from there you could cut a hole in the sheeting and inspect the inside of the lower roof and prove or dis-prove window or upper roof leaks.
 
pokerduder said:
Where the majority of the leaking is happening, yes. Slightly. But it does seem to be pitched towards the house.

As I move towards the front door, it seems to get better until it starts to slope away.
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So that blows a hole in my last post. Is that wood ceiling in the porch?
 
nealtw said:
So that blows a hole in my last post. Is that wood ceiling in the porch?
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Not sure. I've never had it opened. If I wanted to take off the under-siding on the porch, would I just flex it until it pops out?
 
pokerduder said:
Not sure. I've never had it opened. If I wanted to take off the under-siding on the porch, would I just flex it until it pops out?
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If it's vinyl yes you should be able to move something enough to find screws or nails to remove, then you take them down in order. For some reason I have never taken down aluminum so don't know but it wouldn't be that easy I think.
 
nealtw said:
If it's vinyl yes you should be able to move something enough to find screws or nails to remove, then you take them down in order.
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Here's a new video showing a close-up of the underside. I'm not sure how helpful it really is.

http://youtu.be/y67xT8kdjhk

I'm still not sure how they come off though. I figured they would just pop right out. You mentioned starting at one end and working my way down. I'll give that a try tomorrow.
 
pokerduder said:
Here's a new video showing a close-up of the underside. I'm not sure how helpful it really is.

http://youtu.be/y67xT8kdjhk

I'm still not sure how they come off though. I figured they would just pop right out. You mentioned starting at one end and working my way down. I'll give that a try tomorrow.
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This might be a better way to get a peek see.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l0E86jbK0[/ame]
 
nealtw said:
This might be a better way to get a peek see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l0E86jbK0
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The Soffit material you showed is vynil. It is really east to remove.
Basicly just siding that is on the ceiling, Watch how this guy removes it.[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bh7tHkZBMs[/ame]
You may need to buy a 'ziptool" but not a rotozip. ;-)
I still say, you have a problem above this porch, and the water is running behind the ledger board and siding at the top of the porch roof.

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You can still use the zip tool to get it apart, it's just to start the piece, or make your own tool.. Then you need a knotted piece of rope behind it , and pull.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrnFDBcrRag[/ame]
 
So the roof guy showed up (finally) and we talked briefly. He confirmed what I thought about the flashing being covered with shingles for cosmetic purposes. So in other words, they laid down the shingles, put the flashing over it like they were supposed to, and then put a row of shingles over the metal. But they secured those shingles by nailing them to the flashing.

He admitted that the nails probably should have been caulked. But pointed out that the nails usually create a seal through the barrier when they are pounded in and that was the proper way to install them. We could see some nails raised up from the roof that needed to be pounded back down.

He's going to come back later and nail down the nails and caulk. He said without it actually raining, he wouldn't know where the water was coming from.

Any thoughts?
 
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