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Maybe im using the wrong terms, sorry if im driving you guys crazy. Lets start over. The housings that get mounted to the joists dont have a ring that sticks down. These are mounted even with the botton of joist allowing you to cover with drywall and cutout hole at a later time. Im not sure...

No thats not what i mean. The only ones i seem to find out there have a small flange and requires a cutout to be made before totally securing drywall. These have no flange so you could actually finish the ceiling totally then come back and make cutouts. Hope that makes more sense.

I seen part of a program where they were installing cans for recessed lighting in new construction. What I thought made them so nice was, they are installed even with joist so you can drywall over and cutout holes later. Has anyone out there seen these? The people I have talk to think im nuts...

Thanks for the fast reply Toolguy and suggestion of Durobond 90. And yes the wall is free of paint or sealer.

Hi all, My name is Mike and im new to this site and hope someone here can answer my question. I am in the process of finishing my basement that has poured concrete walls. One of the walls along the stairs is concrete and I want to cover it. Moisture isnt a problem because the garage is over...