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Old 10-03-2017, 11:44 AM  
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RECEP=RECEPTICLE, IE. a device you plug something into.

So, there are 2 ROMEX each with a black, white and copper CONDUCTORS.One is connected to a switch, and is presumedly a SWITCH LEG and operates the light fixture, and the other is connected to the RECEP., and is presumedly the HOT PAIR, which is not energized.

Were you able to connect the aforementioned "black" conductor to a breaker and find out what was energized?
There is only 1 sheathing connected to the outlet. 2 to the switch.

The switch and outlet are not connected. I've looked at every switch and outlet on that half of the house and can't find what powers the outlet.

I tried connecting the loose wire in the panel and that wasn't it.


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There is only 1 sheathing connected to the outlet. 2 to the switch.

The switch and outlet are not connected. I've looked at every switch and outlet on that half of the house and can't find what powers the outlet.

I tried connecting the loose wire in the panel and that wasn't it.
Of the 2 romex that are involved with the switch, is 1 of them the hot pair?


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Of the 2 romex that are involved with the switch, is 1 of them the hot pair?
Yes, and the other goes to the fixture. It's working fine.
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Yes, and the other goes to the fixture. It's working fine.
Here are your 2 options; you can purchase a FLUKE circuit tracer for about $70 and trace the conductors presently connected to the recp. that doesn't work to where the circuit is interrupted. OR, purchase a GFCI recep., because it's in a bathroom, a black, white and grnd. pigtails, 3 yellow and 2 red wirenuts to connect the GFCI too the hot pair, and to also safe off the non working conductors presently disconnected from the non-working recep.
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Here are your 2 options; you can purchase a FLUKE circuit tracer for about $70 and trace the conductors presently connected to the recp. that doesn't work to where the circuit is interrupted. OR, purchase a GFCI recep., because it's in a bathroom, a black, white and grnd. pigtails, 3 yellow and 2 red wirenuts to connect the GFCI too the hot pair, and to also safe off the non working conductors presently disconnected from the non-working recep.
I understood the first part. Would need to see a picture for the second.
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I understood the first part. Would need to see a picture for the second.
I think he meant, you don't need or want the gfci to take out the lights and fan so you just pigtail them all and go to the line side.
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I understood the first part. Would need to see a picture for the second.
Understand that this is a temporary fix as the use of the GFCI may well cause an overload, circuit failure and loss of lighting.

I don't do pictures, so I'll describe it for you;With the breaker off, Disconnect the black conductor of the hot pair from the switch and straighten it, strip and connect 2 black pigtails too the black conductor of the hot pair by twisting them together with a plier and capping with a red wirenut, connect the other striped end of 1 of the black pigtails to the switch, connect the striped end of the other black pigtail to the hot/black of the GFCI.

Remove the wirenut from the white conductors, connect the striped end of the white pigtail to the other white conductors, also twisting together with a plier and cap with a red wirenut, connect the other end of the striped white conductor at the white/neutral connection of the GFCI.

Connect the grnd. pigtail to the grnds. connected to the switch and then to the grnd screw on the GFCI.

Turn the breaker back on, press the TEST/RESET on the GFCI


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