French_guy
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No offense, but..............18 pages of posts to somehow realize that America is $$ first !!!
Yes...Venting is always good, and at least it's free
Bud, a friend of mine had doctors refuse to put a cast on her daughter's broken arm until she could cough up the money up front. They did splint her arm, but they wouldn't give her a cast.
Another friend of mine who had insurance but a high deductible couldn't get the doctors to treat her daughter for some sort of severe nerve pain that required surgery. They insisted that she pay up front before they would treat the child and she had to save up for two months and then take her child back in. Those were both prior to the ACA. First incident was in Texas and second was in North Carolina.
Chris, I agree that the amount people pay is obscene. And there is proof that the prices are arbitrary.
I can't find the initial article I'd been reading, but I googled and found a few:
https://thinkprogress.org/new-gover...ical-bills-are-completely-random-221492d89900
http://www.arbiternews.com/2014/03/...harge-19-for-an-aspirin-and-get-away-with-it/
Last one is more relevant to your wife's situation-- they charged $40 to hold the newborn baby.
https://qz.com/805664/arbitrary-hos...rn-and-other-hidden-charges-new-parents-face/
Also, hospitals can and do bill people again for stuff that was already paid by their insurance or that the people already paid. They double bill. That is why you always have to look at the itemized bill. We've had that happen numerous times and had to call them and say "This was already paid". But they do it because some people don't check and just pay it. And they will even charge for services they did not tender. Like the time they charged me for two injections (plus the medicine) that I never received. And this is not just some clerical error, one of the articles I read before (I don't think I found it again) had hospital staff admitting that they deliberately charge for things that they think patients won't notice so they can get more $. They really LOVE to charge Medicare and insurance for things they didn't actually give to patients.
I forgot to quote it, but I completely agree that if a person doesn't want to have health insurance, they shouldn't be forced to pay for it and they shouldn't be fined for not having it.
True-- of course it costs money and more organization to enforce it. And you pretty much just mirrored my stance on gun control.Every activity you mentioned above is illegal. If hospitals, doctors and insurance companies all break the law regularly we dont need new or different laws we need the ones we have enforced.
I said "almost" because it isn't overly surprising given the history and the selfishness of Congress. I agree that it is unacceptable, but I was only mildly surprised. What would truly shock me is if they did something that wasn't selfish.Why did you use "almost"......?
It's COMPLETELY unbelievable.....and UNACCEPTABLE !!!
What makes you think govtrack has any better sources for what they call news???
See herein lies the problem, not everyone sees it your way, there are hundreds of viewpoints. For example I would wager if you were born with serious health issues or your children were and you literally could not afford hundreds of thousands of dollars in healthcare cost you would have a different viewpoint. If your child would die because you couldn't afford the care and an insurance company said no coverage you have a pre-existing condition you would think differently.Well, I have been pretty much silent on this subject on this site.
I do not believe the government should have anything to do with health care.
certainly not the insurance aspect of it.
because what they are pushing is not insurance it is a health tax, plane, and simple
insurance
a thing providing protection against a possible eventuality:
tax
a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions
going to the doctor for check-ups is not part of a possible eventuality
that is maintenance,
insurance is to take care of accidents and unforeseen illness
anyway, I ramble.
Should we provide our own healthcare and the poor? what about them?
it is part of Gods plan, the weak get sick and die, the hardy gene pool is replenished by strong genes
that are the way of life. it is harsh and not fair. no one ever said mother nature was or is fair
I know, my views are not PC and I am a meany poo poo head who must be a racist bigot to say such a thing about the poor poor people who can not help themselves
fair enough,
The government's job is to protect borders, keep enemies away and deal with infrastructure
their job is not handing out phones and health care, that is the responsibility of the communities at the community level
all issues pertaining to the homeless and welfare and HEALTH CARE are in my opinion community issues
Chris, we are not just Pawns, we are pee-ons , if you catch my drift
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