Hey guys, I'm obviously new to the forum, and I'll tell ya.. i'm extremely new to home improvement too... I'm just trying to replace a simple light fixture.. but I can't seem to get the thing out of the ceiling!! It looks like there are two nails (in the middle of the fixture, two of four holes are filled with what looks like nails) holding it to the ceiling, but they are in a recessed hole so that I can't even pry them out. How do i get this thing out of the roof? Brute force? The fixture is old, and cracking so it makes brute force tricky anyway.. I've got the power to the fixture turned off and everything, and all the visible screws taken out. This fixture has GOT to go.. it is old and would have dropped a light on someone's head.. Thanks for any and all help.. I'm gonna try to attack a picture... but I have to fix my stupid digital camera too..