Trump's Contract with America

[KULTULZ]

So the fix is by the all wise KULTULZ:

If you are not part of the solution you are the problem.

There is no fix. If they haven't solved their so-called problems since being freed, then they never will.

The way a person lives is by choice.

 

[slownsteady]

Okay. so tell me who the hell "THEY" is.

 

[KULTULZ]

Okay. so tell me who the hell "THEY" is.

They, in this instance, refers generally to any ethnicity or group of people that are either incapable or unwilling to better themselves. In that particular post, it is referring to the majority of blacks.

Do you find it strange that the people that came here (from Europe) were able to begin a free society and escape the tyranny of the Queen and Church of England?

And yet half the world still lives in filth, squalor and ignorance?

Maybe the Grace of GOD? GOD only helps those that help themselves.

Maybe you have a small case of White Guilt?

 

[buffalo]

So the fix is by the all wise Snoonyb

I think the solution is end affirmative action . Make EVERYONE EQUAL.

I've read that nys is the biggest welfare state , I'm not 100% sure if that's true , but it's bad here. New York post

If people have no incentive to work , most are not going to . What fustrates people is that to support this system , the working class are taxed to support it . The sad part is when I'm done with my house , which is by no means any kind of high end living , I may not be able to afford to live here because of my taxes . But I'm going to have to fight that battle when the day comes , I'm not the type to live off others .

 

[KULTULZ]

There are political reasons they are kept being suppressed and that is not going to change.

And at this late date, how could you clean-up the inner cities? No viable industry is going to build near them because of the crime rates and cost of insurance. The only industry and retail you will most likely see there will be government (out of your pocket) subsidized.

Why would a man work @ minimum wage when there is money to be easily made in drugs and pimping?

Plus, going to work means added costs such as paying for child care, transportation and clothing.Not to mention that, even if it’s not a money-loser, a person moving from welfare to work will see some form of loss — namely, less time for leisure as opposed to work.

In short, less time for street crime.

 

[slownsteady]

They, in this instance, refers generally to any ethnicity or group of people that are either incapable or unwilling to better themselves. In that particular post, it is referring to the majority of blacks.

Do you find it strange that the people that came here (from Europe) were able to begin a free society and escape the tyranny of the Queen and Church of England?

And yet half the world still lives in filth, squalor and ignorance?

Maybe the Grace of GOD? GOD only helps those that help themselves.

Maybe you have a small case of White Guilt?

Just wanted it "on the record".

 

[KULTULZ]

Just wanted it "on the record".

It was on the record. The subject being discussed was blacks.

When will the label RACIST be introduced and thrown around...

 

[slownsteady]

It seems to me that you (plural) are painting with such a wide brush that you will find that you are discriminating against many people that don't deserve such treatment. In the same breath that you call these people lazy and no good, you also curse at Obama and other black families, who are nothing like a pimps or drug dealers. You put on the blinders to justify your opinions and observations of some.
Are you saying that there is no white trash?

BTW, the subject being discussed was Trump.

 

[KULTULZ]

You are sure Riley did his homework. Where else would you get stats?

Obviously you know s--- about Canada, how it became multicultural and how every political party will fight to keep it that way.

Then if your socialist government has all of the answers, why don't you open your borders to them?

We know why the Dems lost the south in the sixties and that is more sad than anything else.

...

What is it you are trying to say?

 

[KULTULZ]

It seems to me that you (plural) are painting with such a wide brush that you will find that you are discriminating against many people that don't deserve such treatment. In the same breath that you call these people lazy and no good,

you also curse at Obama and other black families, who are nothing like a pimps or drug dealers. You put on the blinders to justify your opinions and observations of some.
Are you saying that there is no white trash?

BTW, the subject being discussed was Trump.[/QUOTE]

 

[KULTULZ]

It seems to me that you (plural)

... plural???

...are painting with such a wide brush that you will find that you are discriminating against many people that don't deserve such treatment. In the same breath that you call these people lazy and no good, you also curse at Obama and other black families, who are nothing like a pimps or drug dealers.

Can you tell me one thing OBAMA has done to help the average black?

Have you ever read what OBAMA was (is) and where he came from?

You put on the blinders to justify your opinions and observations of some.

That is in your opinion of course.

Are you saying that there is no white trash?

There is plenty of what you term as White Trash. That is why no one can call me a racist as I am a equal opportunity hater.

BTW, the subject being discussed was Trump.

The original conversation was Trump. Follow the threads.

 

[Snoonyb]

Do you find it strange that the people that came here (from Europe) were able to begin a free society and escape the tyranny of the Queen and Church of England?

In the writings of John Smith and William Bradford you can find references to "common course" which is a form of agurian communism, in which the hunter gatherers and the farmers all contributed to the community "larder" and all, including those who did not contribute, could draw from.

That experiment last about 1yr, until John Smith declared, "He who does not work, does not eat" and William Bradford divided the land equally among the remaining settlers.

So, all you proponents of socialism, we've been there, done that, and know it's a failed venture.

As for the "welfare queens" being predominantly black, there are as many or more whites and hispanics in that same category, however, before the government do-gooders stepped in, all the assistance was handled in the community, where you had to face your neighbor for a handout.

But why not asians?

Because of pride and their emphasis on education, plain and simple.

 

[nealtw]

So you inner city experts, enlighten me. There are no business, no landlords, no contractors, no teachers, lawyers, doctors, nurses, fast food joints?

 

[Snoonyb]

What, thats been stated, would lead you to believe the commerce has been suspended?

 

[nealtw]

I think the solution is end affirmative action . Make EVERYONE EQUAL.

I've read that nys is the biggest welfare state , I'm not 100% sure if that's true , but it's bad here. New York post

If people have no incentive to work , most are not going to . What fustrates people is that to support this system , the working class are taxed to support it . The sad part is when I'm done with my house , which is by no means any kind of high end living , I may not be able to afford to live here because of my taxes . But I'm going to have to fight that battle when the day comes , I'm not the type to live off others .

Okay. let's say all that is true and it sounds like it is.
Some here are not saying that much, we can't write off a population like an old car. It takes some effort to look into problems and talk about problems from every point of view.

That article talks about a single woman with to kids. I don't think they talk about her enough. How should we look at her.

1. Ex hooker with a drug habit, waiting for welfare Wednesday
2. Stays home to provide solid home for her kids with hope for their future.
3. Has a disability that prevents her from working.
4. Stays home to care for a sick or disabled child
5--20. All the other things I can't think of right now.

And that would be only one classification, I am sure there are many.
Single men, single women, grandparents, and the frauds.

But that says nothing about the people who are working two jobs or running a family business who are in general working to making their community better and safe.

It is fine to say cut off welfare and they will get a job.

Areas that have an over sized population of welfare collectors rely on that money coming into the local businesses, dry that up and there will be less jobs.

 

[KULTULZ]

Welfare (in the hood) will never be cut. Rioting and burning will result. And yes, there are more whites on assistance as there are more whites, simple as that. As for Hispanics, it is part of the Welcome Wagon hosted by Uncle Sugar.

It is also a political control. As long as they are taken care of, they will vote Democratic. You have a populace that has never seen or understands capitalism or true freedom for that matter. They (youths) disdain education as it is considered the White Man's Learning. Without an education or trade, you are simply not going to make it (especially with the illegal workers situation). Street crime is the last resort of their existence.

The stores (those that have not been burnt out or robbed continuously) are usually run by Asians/mid-Easterners and the blacks hate them for that. Larger stores that have been burnt out seldom return. Then they complain they have nowhere to shop (WDC - 1968 riots).

How many here have actually walked (not driven through) a inner city? Take a day off and stand on a street corner and you just may have an awakening.

Oh, BTW. Most trades will not go into WDC or PG CTY (MD) due to crime.

It is a fact gentlemen.

 

[nealtw]

Welfare (in the hood) will never be cut. Rioting and burning will result. And yes, there are more whites on assistance as there are more whites, simple as that. As for Hispanics, it is part of the Welcome Wagon hosted by Uncle Sugar.

It is also a political control. As long as they are taken care of, they will vote Democratic. You have a populace that has never seen or understands capitalism or true freedom for that matter. They (youths) disdain education as it is considered the White Man's Learning. Without an education or trade, you are simply not going to make it (especially with the illegal workers situation). Street crime is the last resort of their existence.

The stores (those that have not been burnt out or robbed continuously) are usually run by Asians/mid-Easterners and the blacks hate them for that. Larger stores that have been burnt out seldom return. Then they complain they have nowhere to shop (WDC - 1968 riots).

How many here have actually walked (not driven through) a inner city? Take a day off and stand on a street corner and you just may have an awakening.

Oh, BTW. Most trades will not go into WDC or PG CTY (MD) due to crime.

It is a fact gentlemen.

So if as you say the Dems. just do things to make the situation carry on.

There is room for the other party to come up with real ideas that would change the system.

There are people that work their way out of trailer parks and inner cities, do we understand how that happened and could it be spread to more people.

I think these are people that have hopes dreams and drive that help them at least try. There must be I am sure many more with some or most of those values that have failed and maybe failed more that once. Do we treat them all as bad people.

Mr Trump went to communities close to black inner cities and spoke about what he would do for inner cities. He may have been sincere ( Hard to tell) but just consider for a moment, if it sounded good for you it might have scared the piss out of the people in the inner city.

Mr Trump made a habit of saying different things depending on the crowd he was talking to. So we all have to wait and see what he wants to do and then can he do it. Like all the people before him he is still subject to congress and courts.

But you can be sure, as long as you are hopeful of what you would like to see, there are people that are living in fear of what might be coming and fear takes away from hopes, dreams and redirects efforts.

 

[Snoonyb]

"Areas that have an over sized population of welfare collectors rely on that money coming into the local businesses, dry that up and there will be less jobs."

Slick willy obtained a 2nd term by welfare reform and the premise that the welfare check will not be replaced by income, is false.

The practice of exchanging food stamps for cash and the drugs is the source of the income, not commerce.

 

[havasu]

But you can be sure, as long as you are hopeful of what you would like to see, there are people that are living in fear of what might be coming and fear takes away from hopes, dreams and redirects efforts.

Fear is one thing that only the person fearing can correct, but in all honesty, the rest of us have been living the reality for the last 8 years.

 

[nealtw]

"Areas that have an over sized population of welfare collectors rely on that money coming into the local businesses, dry that up and there will be less jobs."

Slick willy obtained a 2nd term by welfare reform and the premise that the welfare check will not be replaced by income, is false.

The practice of exchanging food stamps for cash and the drugs is the source of the income, not commerce.

So, is it that you can't get off that one thought to spend any time thinking about what might be done to actually change the situation?